This is a discussion about the submission for Land Ownership / Ukraine.
The link has not been working for me in the last 2 weeks. Does anyone have any idea what has happened, if it will work again? Thank you!
This is a discussion about the submission for Land Ownership / Ukraine.
The link has not been working for me in the last 2 weeks. Does anyone have any idea what has happened, if it will work again? Thank you!
http://map.land.gov.ua/kadastrova-karta works for me
Please explain why was it rejected? Maybe itās just you?
Hi! I am afraid it still does not work for me. I assume the server isnāt down but I do get a 409 conflict error. I have also asked some friends to check and they get the same. I am attaching a print screen with the error.
Hi! I am from Ukraine and the server http://map.land.gov.ua/kadastrova-karta work for me. Itās good.
access to http://map.land.gov.ua/kadastrova-karta is restricted to Ukraine only, this is 100% sure
anyway this site will not let you know the land owners, only general information on the parcel
if you need ownersā names go to https://e.land.gov.ua/
authorization required
The authorization and owner names are available for free to anybody from Ukrainian citizens.
This category doesnāt require ownersā names but it any case itās available after authentication and citizenship verification. Property type is available without registering.
The category also requires property value. Itās available too, but not for free.
BTW, couldnāt find any country which lists property value publicly and for free. I couldnāt verify whether Denmark has property value listed.
Hereās an example:
Š¢ŠøŠæ Š²Š»Š°ŃŠ½Š¾ŃŃŃ:ŠŠ¾Š¼ŃŠ½Š°Š»ŃŠ½Š° Š²Š»Š°ŃŠ½ŃŃŃŃ
(Property Type: Community property)
ŠŠ°Š“Š°ŃŃŃŠ¾Š²ŠøŠ¹ Š½Š¾Š¼ŠµŃ = Parcel ID
Parcel Boundaries are visible but not in machine readable format
Property value can be ordered (not free)
Iām afraid youād have to find some Ukrainian proxy and set up your browser to go through it.
Dear @vanuan, @AlfaCentavra, @vovka,
thank you very much for your feedback. As part of the public dialogue we will follow up on your input, and will get back to you in the coming days.
All the best,
Danny
@vanuan I entirely agree that the data is somehow available online (after requesting access).
I would say:
the data is accessible only as access-controlled data, which is not entirely machine-readable (hence answered ānoā in our survey), is not for free (property value must be paid), therefore also not openly licensed (since this contradicts one core requirement of open licensing, namely that āThe license must not impose any fee arrangement, royalty, or other compensation or monetary remuneration as part of its conditionsā), not downloadable at once (not downloadable at all).
Question is whether the data is provided in a timely fashion? What do you think @vanuan?
Well, it depends on what exactly meant by āproperty valueā. If it means āthe price property was sold last timeā then yes, it is available in the property ownership registry, and is provided as soon as property rights are registered. If it means ācurrent priceā then no, hence property evaluation (i.e. market research) is required and several days is needed before data becomes available.
We kept this fairly open and accepted several information, e.g. price paid or property tax value. Is there any screenshot or URL you can add here so I can verify update frequency? That would be helpful
Well, there are screenshots here:
http://www.pravda.com.ua/columns/2015/10/8/7084060/
I can click around to show different dates but Iām not sure how it would prove the update frequency.
Thereās no functionality to sort by recently sold properties.
The only proof I can provide is that thereās a law which regulates how property registry operates. And this service is directly connected to the property registry. So itās as recent as it can theoretically get. I.e. itās not updated from some first party source. It is the first party source.
P.S. of course there might be some IT security considerations so physically itās probably using a read only replica of the registry. But it shouldnāt be more than few days old.